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]]>IZZY: To be entirely honest, making this podcast was a selfish move on my part. I love to interview and champion the creatives I know & respect, and I dig any excuse to learn from a filmmaker who’s done it their way. But I ultimately followed through because, about a year ago, I realized that I was having similar conversations with many of the wonderful emerging filmmakers I coached and consulted with inside of indie spunk club – my membership platform for filmmakers.
These are directors, producers, writers and actors who are inspired to build an empowered, fulfilling career in the film industry, on their own terms, but just need some kind of blueprint or roadmap to get there. I am a director myself, who’s inspired to build this kind of a career.
I’ve always known I wanted to bring these conversations into a podcast format. I’m excited it’s finally here. My intention is to open up access to film industry insight and dissect how to strategically build a career using your individual creative voice.
Born in Australia and now an honorary American, Izzy has starred in notable series such as Puberty Blues and Underbelly, and many will have seen her in the 2018 sci-fi movie Occupation – she began her career in the entertainment world from an early age and knew exactly the path that she wanted to take.
I started professionally acting at 17 in TV and film, which exposed me to a world of filmmaking that I instantly fell in love with. I wanted to direct. I wanted to learn all of the roles on set. As well as directing, I fancy editing, production design, sound design, producing, and writing. The whole process. It’s an endless rush to collaborate with a team towards a shared creative vision. I intend on making films my whole life, I just love it!
During the pandemic and over the past few years, I’ve built a production company and coaching practice helping upwards of 60 filmmakers go from script to screen, which has taught me a whole lotta delicious wisdom juice about my own career. So came the podcast.
The podcast clearly wants to help emerging filmmakers, why is this so important to Izzy?
When I started out I really wished I had access to mentorship and guidance. Navigating this industry alone can be tough and confusing. There is also so much more I want to learn, and I figured that we can seek these answers together. I love supporting emerging filmmakers because they’re, in my mind, some of the best people I’ve met. Ideas driven, curious, playful, motivated and kind.
I believe the world becomes a more empathetic, cooler place when filmmakers from all walks of life get their stories seen and heard and experienced by an audience. Not just the dominant voices.
Filmmakers are inherently collaborative and want to network, and there is plenty of peer to peer help in the higher levels of the industry, the problem is we need more diversity in those higher level industry roles who will take bets on newer voices.
And Izzy knows that we need diversity in the industry to get new and exciting stories, she’s clear about this…
Hire women, hire queer folks, hire people of color — when our sets are equitable, the stories get better. It’s science proven. You can’t argue with science.
The Indie Spunk podcast has an array of eclectic episodes ranging from interviews with a mentoring tone, to out and out industry advice and guidance. What more can we expect as the episodes roll out?
Much more! So far we’ve had directors, writers, producers and special guests join us on the podcast who’ve worked with Sundance, created festivals such as HollyShorts, written for The Simpsons, and made award-winning films. But it’s only the beginning. I am giddy about what’s to come. We also run filmmaking workshops and events inside indie spunk club.
The podcast is all about you taking action. The best place to start is to surround yourself with a like-minded community, get busy creating from a place of curiosity, and seek guidance. You can listen to the podcast here where we get into it all.
It’s clear Izzy displays an unyielding passion for the arts and film, and the Indie Spunk podcast is part of a much wider project and conversation.
Indie Spunk podcast is an offshoot to my mentorship programs & production company, Indie Spunk, and I see it all continuing to grow as we support more filmmakers and make more films. As a director, I currently have a feature film in development, and I’m in production on a number of short films as a director and producer.

Indie Spunk can be found on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and all good podcast platforms and Izzy Stevens can be found on Instagram: @izzystevens and @indiespunk, as well as IzzyStevens.com
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]]>I did ask Chat GPT to write this column for me, but it turns out that it can’t quite capture the pzazz and zest that I exude when writing about audio. So, to my dismay, I have had to write this entire thing myself.
New technology can threaten jobs, traditional methods of storytelling, and our sense of comfort in the way we have learned to engage with podcasting. Job automation is an incredibly important subject to consider, however I will not be addressing it in this particular issue of Revelations. Instead I want to focus on the applications of AI and how it might benefit the evolution of our artform.
There are parts of the podcast production process that may be expedited by AI. Take the development stage for example. You could use Chat GPT to generate your content calendar or a script around particular phrases or topics. However, I do not suggest using the ideas that Chat GPT produces as your sole form of idea development as there are four main pitfalls to doing so.
Firstly, the human brain is brilliant and may be inspired to connect different concepts in a unique and creative way that Chat GPT may not. Instead of creating exactly what Chat GPT suggests, use it as a starting point and ask yourself: “What else? So what? What am I missing here?”. AI may make this initial brainstorm easier, but there is currently no comparison to the unusual and complex connections that our brains can make.
Secondly, Chat GPT can produce repetitive results. I spent two hours using the software this morning and whilst I was impressed at the breadth of information I was able to learn (which would have taken much longer to obtain using Google), oftentimes it was saying the same thing in different ways, oftentimes it gave similar results, and oftentimes it just reworded the same answer. You get the picture.
Thirdly, other podcasters may be using Chat GPT to plan their content, and they may input many of the same prompts as you, and therefore may receive similar answers to you. In this way, the use of AI could lead to the homogenisation of the podcast landscape, which would kill the medium (and also your show) because everyone is making content based on the same information.
Fourthly, AI can reinforce existing biases due to the data it’s trained on; if an AI algorithm is trained on data that contains racial or gender biases, or information from one particular country, then it’s likely to produce biased information. A lot of data in the world is biased in these ways, so I’d be curious to speak to someone who works in the field who is able to explain how they are mitigating that.
The recording and editing process is another part of production AI can aid. For example, AI can be used to repair audio, remove filler words, and denoise your recording. Adobe recently released Adobe Podcast, which does pretty much everything. Most impressive is its ability to make the recording sound like it was conducted in a studio, which it achieves by altering the frequencies of your voice and reducing the background noise. You can use it to deep fake your host’s voice to generate an entire episode, or correct a single sentence that you don’t have time to re-record with the host.
Adobe Podcasts and AI tools like it could even be used to create a whole series without a host having to record a single line! The Times recently produced an episode of Stories of our Times about deep fake audio, with an accompanying video showing the host, David Aaronovitch, reacting to his AI voice clone. Aaronovitch identified a common issue experienced when using AI this way – mispronunciation. Some words were pronounced inconsistently throughout the podcast, and in a way that the host himself would never pronounce said word. But the world moves very fast, and creating a daily show takes work. We often want to cover more, but it’s impossible. German publishing house, Heise Gruppe, have solved this by using AI to clone their host’s voice and then used text to speech to create a second daily episode for their show. It increased their plays by 37%. But whilst the episodes increased engagement, feedback from listeners identified similar pronunciation issues in English and German, as well as an unnatural lack of breathing sounds.
There is a wealth of AI applications in post-production – we’re all used to using automatic transcripts already – but now that you can create automatic captions on promo videos you can use AI that utilises natural language processing to convert your podcast audio to text. This type of AI can be used to write an accompanying blog or the shownotes for an episode, it could write an entire Twitter thread for you, or you could use AI to create a filter for your TikTok fans. I think the priority here shouldn’t be to churn out as much content as possible, but instead AI should be used to increase our efficiency so we have more time to increase the value of each piece of content – something that is especially useful for smaller teams who may not have the beefy budgets.
I’ve recently downloaded Fathom, a more social podcast player that makes use of AI to allow you to save moments in a podcast and share them with your friends. The player also uses AI to recommend other shows, a general function that Chat GPT itself has told me could be a concern: it may be prone to the same racial or gender biases mentioned, and at the very least “As AI algorithms become more sophisticated, they It may favour popular shows and topics over less well-known ones, making it harder for new and diverse voices to be heard.”
However impressed we are at its current capabilities, AI’s computational power is doubling every six to 10 months, well ahead of Moore’s Law. The implication is that, what we’re seeing now is AI in its infancy. It’s scary but it might just be the most exciting stage of the internet – so far!
The New York Times weighs in on the latest developments in ChatGPT last week. Listen on your favourite app >>
NPR’s podcast Short Wave discussed the idea of computer thinking back in January, before the release of the latest ChatGPT. Listen on your favourite app >>
The remote recording podcast has a play around with AI creativity, with an episode written by ChatGPT. Listen on your favourite app >>
A show that focuses on fantasy and sci-fi worlds, this episodes looks at the way AI has been encroaching on visual art, the legalities of copyright (or lack of them) and what can be gained and lost through AI art. Listen on your favourite app >>
A conversation from Talks at Google about the bigger picture and concerns with AI. Listen on your favourite app >>
This Is Distorted has made an entire podcast using AI, from the artwork, to the script, title – and even the Press Release we were sent. Synthetic Stories is a podcast, about a podcast, made by… the podcast? This recommendation was written by a human, however. Listen on your favourite app >>
Stories of Our Time with David Aaronovitch (possibly) asks if machines could be our surgeons, our judges and our artists, what would it then mean to be human? Listen on your favourite app >>
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]]>Dutty Sink Drama podcast accompanies the anthology of spokenword poetry, micro-memoir and prose of the same name, published by indie publisher MT Ink, 2021. I (Jaqi Loye-Brown), explore identity, race and topical themes, from Windrush, the pandemic to Grenfell and Brexit. A burst of creativity and activism borne out of the lockdown.

The podcast is focused on the Windrush Generation. I’m a product of that time, a child born in Britain with a Caribbean heritage. I was aware of the various stories we had, all very different and wanted to use the platform to share those experiences. I wanted to give a voice to growing up Caribbean and British in the UK and the navigating that intersection during the 1960’s & 70’s. Little was heard then or now of the now middle aged people. My podcast although long in episode, I hope as a body of work shines a light on those experiences. It also includes spokenword recitals and specially written short drama monologues.
White Wine Question Time with Kate Thornton, followed by The Michelle Obama Podcast and Grounded with Louis Theroux.
I always had a keen interest in radio. A passion going back to pirate radio in the Midlands during the 1980’s (I was a newsreader via Teletext). I took many short courses in the days of tape and china graph during the 90’s somewhere in Kings Cross before involvement in RSL’s. I produced a show I co-hosted called The Women’s Locker Room in White City London. Like many people podcast was a buzz word that I felt compelled to investigate further and immediately knew I would produce my own show in the near future.
White Wine Question Time received a lot of press and the title won me over. Archetypes from Archewell Audio – for the narration interjected between the guest interview. I find it engaging, because in the end, I want to hear from Meghan Markle as much as her guests.
The appeal of Dutty Sink Drama is the ordinary guest, the authentic voice of people who are not public figures or persons of note. They‘re non media savvy happy to share their story without worrying about going off brand. My guests come from a suspicious community and the freedom to share thoughts is unwelcomed. They trust me. That’s more important. I’m happy to pull an episode if they’re uncomfortable.
But if Zadie Smith was about…
Preparation. Have questions ready. Go over them again and again. Keeping guests on topic is a skill. My questions are often too long!
Episode 1. ‘Dumplings, Drumming and the Death Stare with Myrah‘
My books are available to order online from reputable book stores from Amazon to Waterstones and Foyles.
I’ve just finished MA Creative Writing at Birkbeck and I am currently seeking representation.

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]]>Arguably, there was no creative medium that was curtailed so much by Covid as much as theatre was. It’s not that surprising that theatre-makers pivoted to podcasts so successfully. Indeed, all three podcasts that placed in the Best Fiction category at the British Podcast Awards were created by (or in collaboration with) theatre makers. The winning show, Sound Worlds, uses the episode format to share a variety of standalone stories in all their forms – from the ones we tell our children the ones we tell ourselves.
Conceived and directed by Patrick Eakin Young, Sound Worlds was supported by Arts Council funding, which allowed Patrick to enlist collaborators from the world of theatre, literature and music. The result is a mixture of texts, music and sound design that Patrick aptly describes as ‘sonic theatre’. As well as the creative aspect (the show also placed Silver in the Creativity Award category) I love the peak behind the curtain we get from Patrick at the end of episodes where he explains his inspiration. But I of course wanted to know more, and managed to catch up with Patrick via email to learn about the show…
Thanks very much. I feel great! It was very unexpected, but very welcome! When you are making things that you think are good, it feels really nice to have that thought confirmed by others. Like: oh! Other people think this is good too! Amazing!
I’m old school (like, actually old, ha ha!) so my first podcast was This American Life. The OG podcast as it were. I was living in New York in 2006 and my roommate was really into it and so I started to listen. This American Life became a bit of a victim of its own success, and the format started to grow a little tired (not to mention every podcast after was trying to emulate it), but some of those early episodes were such amazing storytelling, and really affecting.
I was a theatre director making music and sound-based theatre before the pandemic. But I was growing a bit unhappy with the space of theatre, or where I sat in it. The pandemic stopped all that anyways, and I thought: I’ll take this opportunity to try making sound-only work—ie. podcasts—which I always wanted to try but never had the time or space to do. Our first season was kind of a knee-jerk reaction, like “what can we do quickly?” The second season was about discovering the form, as in “what is possible and what do we think is good?” Our third season is going to be about going deeper!
I don’t hear a lot of podcasts like ours. But the podcast I admire the most (and which I hope we approach even in a small way) is Have You Heard George’s Podcast? By George the Poet. It is, hands down, the best podcast and everyone should listen to it, even if you don’t like podcasts. There are also some other great podcasts out there that are pushing the envelope in terms of storytelling which I like. Two of my favourites are Love and Radio by Nick van der Kolk , which is mostly interviews, but really beautifully done in the way they reveal information to the listener, and The Memory Palace by Nate DiMeo, which are creative essays about obscure American history, just beautiful writing and storytelling.
We don’t have ‘guests’ per se. Each episode is a collaboration with a musician and a writer. I’d love to make episodes with top-level musicians like James Blake, Solange, Perfume Genius, Flying Lotus, Anohni… I mean my list goes on and on!
Always use a pop-shield! Seriously, I’ve learnt a lot about storytelling. When you remove the visual, you really concentrate on the essentials of story and narrative, and that has taught me a lot.
I love all our episodes, but I think ‘Town Is By The Sea‘, is a really good example of what our show is about. The mixture of story, sound design, and music by Anna Rheingans is kind of what I hope we can achieve more often than not. Also, I love our series of Raymond Carver short story adaptations What We Talk About When We Talk About Love, especially the episode entitled ‘Gazebo’.
You can check out our website www.soundworlds.org and sign up for our newsletter there for updates on the podcast. Also we’re on Instagram and Twitter @_soundworlds.

Listen to Sound Worlds now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and other popular podcast apps.
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]]>Since then, more than 30 older people aged 60+ have been involved in the first series, and it was even praised by Prince William! The award-winning podcast is back for a second season and looks set to continue is its mission for creativity and connection. We spoke to creators, theatre company Made By Mortals.

We turned to podcasts through necessity to be honest. We run a not-for-profit that traditionally creates music theatre and films with groups of people from our community in Manchester. When lockdown hit, like everyone we were forced to work remotely, which meant that none of our groups could meet in person. We wanted to create something that could bring people together during a time that they were forced apart. So, through experimenting, playing and using our imaginations over zoom, we came up with the concept of Armchair Adventures, a podcast series for children that takes them on a journey of the imagination.
We were able to develop the scripts, rehearse and record using equipment we all had to hand, while still managing to create something that meets (and I think has now surpassed) the artistic quality of our theatre work.
Podcasting has also helped us to grow our audience reach. Armchair Adventures has had tens of thousands of listens, if that was one of our theatre productions we’d have to sell out a lot of venues to reach those numbers!
You’re also able to play with sound design to make the listener feel part of the action. Podcasts have allowed us to create immersive theatre far more regularly than we ever could when putting on a staged theatre show
To top it off, podcasts are also easy to get hold of, they’re convenient for an audience as they can take their podcasts with them wherever and play them whenever. So all in all, podcasting was the perfect solution!
I think our Armchair Adventures episodes are getting better and better all the time, so I’d go for our latest one ‘An Underwater Adventure’ (released 11th November). The series follows 15 year old travel agent Connie, and her gang of explorers. With the pandemic, people haven’t been able to go abroad as freely as they used to, so they’ve come up with an alternative to a traditional vacation, a journey of the imagination, an “Armchair Adventure”. Using the voices of Connie and the gang, music, immersive sound design, and places in the podcast for the listener to interact too, the listener is very much a part of the action.
The use of the music in this latest episode, ‘An Underwater Adventure’ is really fun. It’s like the piano has come along on the journey too, and instead of hearing someone speak, the piano communicates through music!
We also always have an important message for children in the podcasts too, in this one, it’s all about conservation and climate change. And as always, there’s plenty for the listener to join in with too in this episode! I do love ‘Carla’s Bubble Adventure’ and ‘A Showbiz Adventure’ from season 1 too though!

One of the most exciting things about Armchair Adventures is how it has been adapted to be used in lots of different settings. We made the series for children so it was important to us that we put it in front of as many kids as possible! We have great relationships with local schools through our theatre work, so we presented the podcasts online in ‘Live Online Shows’. This also put podcasting on the radar for many schools and children. Since then we’ve made teaching resources to accompany the podcast episodes, so teachers can embed the learning. This was particularly impactful with ‘A Unity Adventure’ which is about racial equality.
We’ve also created an activity pack for older people and trained up activity co-ordinators in nursing homes so they can use it with their residents. Now restrictions have eased up we’re now creating the episodes in person and also working on the development of a live Armchair Adventures theatre show – watch this space!
I really like The Story Pirates and how it blends actors, musicians, improvisers and stories from kids. It’s quite like how we create Armchair Adventures, except we make it using stories from over 65s!!
Away from podcasts, we’re really into the work of Tim Crouch, a theatre maker who challenges traditional theatre conventions. We try and do that with our work, blurring the distinction between performer and audience member.
You can’t just expect an audience to fall at your feet, no matter how good you believe your podcast to be. You need to spend just as much time, if not more, marketing your podcast and maintaining audience engagement as you do making the episodes!
We’ve worked really hard at this, and although we’ve had a low-budget, grassroots marketing campaign, the results have been brilliant: tens of thousands of listens including a surprise following in India; engaged with over 5,000 school children through our Live Online shows; we’ve trained over 50 activity co-ordinators in nursing homes; we were recommended by BBC Radio 4 and Podcast Radio; received a letter of commendation from HRH Prince William and most recently we became an award-winning podcast by winning Best Podcast at the Manchester Publicity Awards 2021!
It’s all nuts and can’t wait for where our next adventure takes us!

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]]>Creativity is used daily from suited business executives to stay at home parents. It is an omnipotent tool that anybody can use in their everyday lives to create valuable outcomes. There is no rulebook and no spells to mutter! Here are 10 podcasts to help you tap into your inner creativity:

The Honest Designers
The Four-tet Tom Ross, Ian Barnard, Lisa Glanz and Dustin Lee have engineered a brutally honest deep dive into what it takes to become successful in the creative industry. Unearthing the non-glamourous side of the business like ‘how to land more clients’ and the hoops you need to jump through. Perfect for serious creatives looking to jumpstart a hobby into a career. Listen >>

Beautiful Anarchy
David Duchemin is a former stand-up comedian turned prolific creative. He is a photographer, writer, publisher and recalls vivid experiences with passion and comedy. Episodes are only 10-15 minutes long and aren’t a serious commitment although if you listen to one, you will click next. Listen >>

The Daily Creative
With an archive of 150 episodes, Todd Henry explains what it takes to produce creative and focused work. They come in the form of 3 minute bitesized tips and tricks. A wonderful addition to your day! My challenge is to try and only listen to one… It’s like opening a bag of skittles only to find they are all red. Good luck. Listen >>

Hex Code Black
A podcast coming out in early October hosted by Three’s a Crowd network where conversations with Black creative professionals address classism, racism and general hurdles faced by the black community in the workplace and everyday life. With professors, industry accelerators and scholars all featuring giving their stories, we cannot wait for this one! Listen >>

No Such Thing As A Fish
Not so much a podcast on the process of creativity but more a work shop on creative genius at work. Sit back and revel as the people who made the hit BBC panel show QI present their favourite facts of the week with swift wit and bickering. Listen >>

Magic Lessons
Brought to you by the author of Big Magic, one of the most successful books on creativity ever released. Elizabeth Gilbert sadly only has 21 episodes however each one is soaked with fantastic information on how to navigate through the struggles of creativity. If her podcast wasn’t already good enough, she has THE most soothing voice, perfect for your journey home. Listen >>

The Go Creative show
For creatives involved in the realm of film, creative artist Ben Consoli delves into relevant topics discussing a wide range of successes, tools, ‘not-so-successes’ and much more. His analytical approach is immediately trustworthy and sometimes amplified by special guests. For film lovers and creatives alike, Ben is your guy! Listen >>

21st Century Creative
Mark McGuiness is a creative coach! From personal wisdom to interviews with experts in the creative fields you can expand your creative interests! Not only is the content scintillating, Mark also provides creative challenges for the listener to get stuck in! Listen >>

Creative Rebels
For those of you who have rebelled against the 9 to 5, hosts David Speed and Adam Brazier inspire with advice on how to follow their example. The process of co-founding Parlour Tattoo and Graffiti life is well documented as well as interviews from other fellow rebels who have carved their own paths. Listen >>

Overshare
The simple premise of this podcast is to bring to your attention topics that simply don’t get enough ‘talk time’ in the industry. Co-founder Justin Gignac converses with friends and fellow creatives to ‘overshare’ on their personal experiences. So eloquent, you feel as if you are at the table with them. Listen >>

The Futur
A podcast aimed at sustainability conscious creatives! Chris Do who also hosts the Youtube channel ‘The Process’ aims to empower creative people to live sustainably whilst simultaneously indulging in their passions and making a living from them. Based in Santa Monica, California you can imagine the vibe! Listen >>
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Hey, I’m Steve Folland and I’m a freelance video/audio creator. Each week on the Being Freelance podcast I chat to a different creative freelancer from around the world about their experience of life and work being, well, freelance. It’s a fun way of learning how to build a successful business – there’s many ways to do it, so it turns out.
Ooh, probably Ricky Gervais when he was on Xfm. Wow, that feels like a long time ago. It’s amazing to think what they show spawned.
I didn’t know any freelancers so was searching for podcasts about how to run a freelance business and balance it with your life. This was in 2014 and it turned out there weren’t any. They were mostly American entrepreneur podcasts that I didn’t relate to. Since I couldn’t find it, I started it.
None at the time. But since then I guess the way I like to really make it about the guest rather than myself is akin to Guy Raz on How I Built This. It’s a show about the people who created businesses like Canva, AirBnB, Instagram, Jo Malone, ReCaptcha (that’s an amazing story) and even The Chipmunks franchise. My podcast is a lot less over produced and ‘hyped’ – but the essence of shutting up, listening and being genuinely interested in your guests is there.
The funny thing is, the best guests on Being Freelance are usually the freelancers who have never been interviewed before. They’re not celebrities. They’re not media trained. So my dream guest is someone with an interesting story, plot twists I don’t see coming, fun to chat to, great business insight… but who happens to have a decent mic and wifi 
To have a healthy sense of paranoia. Spare back up recordings and double checking you’ve actually hit record. It’s too easy to become complacent when you’ve been doing it for a while.
The recent Tom Hovey episode is a great place to start. He’s the illustrator who does all the amazing artwork on Bake Off. That’s one heck of a gig… Brilliant to hear how he got into it and how he’s grown his business since.
Beingfreelance.com is the website and I’m @sfolland on Twitter and Instagram. Thanks for having me!
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