Amy’s passion for dissecting business law issues finds a dynamic platform in the podcast, Bite-Sized Business Law. Through engaging interviews with corporate attorneys, industry experts, and scholars, she brings to light the multifaceted impacts of corporate decisions on society. In this exclusive interview, Amy shares her journey from an avid podcast listener to a compelling host, her motivations behind creating a business law podcast, and the exciting, sometimes controversial, insights her series aims to deliver. Join us as we explore the mind behind Bite-Sized Business Law and gain a glimpse into the future trends that will shape the corporate world.

Can you introduce yourself and give us an overview of your podcast?

Hi, I’m Amy Martella and I am the Executive Director of the Corporate Law Center at Fordham University School of Law. In that role, I develop conferences, events, and symposia that bring together scholars, professionals, policymakers, and students to study, discuss and debate current issues and perennial questions in business and financial law.

I’m also the creator and host of the Bite-Sized Business Law podcast, which tackles compelling business law issues through interviews with corporate attorneys, industry experts, public figures, and business law scholars. My own background includes a wide range of legal experience at small and large law firms, tech start-up companies, and as a law clerk on three different federal courts. I’ve got a J.D. from Fordham Law School and a B.A. from Boston College.

Amy Martella

What was the first podcast you ever listened to, and how did it influence your interest in podcasting?

At the risk of sounding terribly basic, the first podcast I ever listened to was Serial –Adnan Syed. As a young mom with babies and toddlers underfoot, I had no time to sit down anymore, and I found this medium so easy to listen to on the go. From the moment I heard Sarah Koenig’s voice, I was hooked. Podcasts are now a regular part of my day at one point or another.

What motivated you to start a podcast focused on business law?

As the Executive Director of the Corporate Law Center at Fordham Law School, I’m constantly convening events, lectures, roundtables, conferences, and debates to study and discuss business and financial law. Our students, faculty, and alumni really like the work we do, but we knew we could elevate it to an even broader audience via podcasting.

Corporations have a huge impact on society, from the economy to politics to the tech we use to shaping our government’s foreign policy. And you don’t have to be a lawyer or an industry insider to have a vested interest in what’s happening in the business world. But when you open the newspaper or read traditional media, you often get a take that either doesn’t examine the issue deeply enough or is only what the finance industry wants you to know. Our expert guests, including scholars, journalists, corporate lawyers, authors, and business leaders, provide deeper, albeit often controversial, insights that you won’t get from other sources. My goal is to wrestle with ideas and question commonly held assumptions about the way corporations affect our daily lives. I think Bite-Sized Business Law does a solid job of going beyond informing our audience to give them a true understanding of what motivates corporate behavior, moves the markets, and makes the world go ‘round.

Which podcasts do you draw inspiration from, particularly in the legal and business space?

I try not to miss a Daily if it relates to business or politics. What I like about The Daily is how the short length drives home the most important aspects of an issue and the reporting done almost in real-time proximity to the “event” shows me what people’s knee-jerk reactions tend to be. That allows me to formulate deeper questions and challenge initial assumptions about these events. I also love Planet Money and the way it demonstrates that almost any issue is somehow related to our economy. Another, perhaps guilty pleasure, podcast that I listen to is The Prosecutors, which is legal but also true-crime focused. The hosts unabashedly draw on their own professional backgrounds which serves as a good reminder to me: even though I’m interviewing experts, I have my own expertise as a lawyer that I can add to the conversation.

What are you most excited for listeners to hear in your current series?

I’m always excited when the Corporate Law Center Faculty Director, Richard Squire, comes on the show. He’s not only brilliant, but he’s funny and super engaging to listen to. We have an upcoming episode where I pose the question to him: should Sam Bankman-Fried spend even one day behind bars? This episode questions everything we thought we knew about how we punish white-collar crime in America and whether there are alternative ways to do it. It’s a super fascinating question, and I can’t wait to hear what our listeners think.

If readers can start on one episode of Bite-Sized Business Law where should they start?

Is Elon Musk Overpaid at Tesla? Interplanetary Warfare: Mars vs. Delaware.

Which future business law trends discussed in your series are you most eager to see come to life?

So many! Artificial Agents in the boardroom, meaning having an AI robot sit as a member on a corporate board. That issue was discussed on this episode, and I’m convinced artificial agents are coming soon to a boardroom near you.

Greater transparency into litigation funding arrangements which, as of now, require almost zero disclosure. The private equity spigots have been turned on full blast and they’re flooding mass tort litigations with money, which creates real risks, from sanction evasion to bankrupting viable corporations. That issue was discussed here and I’m looking forward to seeing how it evolves in the near future.

Where is Bitcoin headed and how many other digital coins will get ETFs? This is a fascinating ride to be on, as my guest Anthony Scaramucci explains in this episode.

I’m also eager to see the global corporate community rise to the 21st century challenges of promoting stability in a world rife with geopolitical tension and taking steps to stem certain global risks like election interference, even if it negatively impacts share prices. That issue will be discussed on an upcoming episode celebrating 80 years of Bretton Woods and calling for a new world geo-economic order.

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Who are you and what’s your podcast about?

I’m Bob Motta, a recovering criminal defense attorney. I host Defense Diaries, a serialized true crime podcast. Our pod takes the deepest dives in the industry into the cases we cover. Season One is the John Wayne Gacy Case…my father was his trial attorney and he gave me all of his taped, never before heard interviews with Gacy. We intertwine those into the narrative. We focus on the victims, the investigation, arrest and trial. Season 2 is the Dr. Anthony Garcia case out of Omaha, NE. I was lead counsel for Garcia. The case was absolutely fascinating for true crime lovers out there.

Why did you decide to start podcasting in the first place?

I had been contemplating doing a podcast with the tapes for a couple of years, when in 2019 I reached out to Joe Berlinger after his Bundy Tapes doc dropped on Netflix to pitch an idea with my tapes. He loved the concept and we tried to put a deal together for the next nine months. I ended up killing the deal and decided that the tapes would best be used in the pod. Berlinger decided to run with my pitch, without my tapes and it’s dropping on Netflix in April of 22. One problem with his doc is that we uncovered a massive secret about how the police actually got Gacy under arrest… it’s truly mind blowing, I informed his team of the development, they ignored us and decided to put out the fiction narrative as opposed to the truth behind the arrest.

What’s the first podcast you ever listened to?

Serial was the first pod that I ever listened to…that’s when I fell in love with the medium.

Which podcasts do you take inspiration from?

I’m a fan of serialized pods that follow one case over a season. My current favorite is True Crime Bullshi**, which is hosted by my friend Josh Hallmark. It’s a super deep dive into Israel Keyes.

Who’s your dream interviewee for the podcast?

For season one… it would have to be Kim Byers, who is an intricate part of the ruse that law enforcement pulled off in order to get Gacy off the streets. She refused to interview with us, and now we know why.

Which episode would you say is the perfect introduction to your podcast?

It’s serialized, so Episode 1 is the best place to start. It gives a nice overview of what to expect from the pod.

Where can your audience find out more about you?

Defense Diaries is available on all platforms. The website is defensediaries.com. You can also follow on Facebook and IG @defensediaries on Twitter @defense_diaries and on Tik Tok @defensediariespodcast. We also have started our YouTube channel for Defense Diaries. Check it out… we think you’ll like it!

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Who are you and what’s your podcast about?

Den of Enquiry kick starts conversations with kids about democracy and is aimed at 9-12year olds and their adults. We use original poetry to bring big ideas to life and start great chats about the rule of law and individual liberty. It’s a podcast by me, Miranda Duffy, my two youngest children and our studio audience, Woof. We build a den under our kitchen table, turn it into a recording studio and start tapping into our critical thinking skills. Why not build a den and join us!

Why did you decide to start podcasting in the first place?

The rhythms and rhymes I use in my poetry are meant to be read out loud, so it’s a great way of communicating ideas and celebrating words. When podcasts are fun and entertaining, it’s a brilliant way to share an experience and get people talking. And, of course, it’s fun and we love it!

What was the first podcast you ever listened to?

Talking Politics. It’s pretty serious stuff but filled with ideas.

Which podcasts do you take inspiration from?

Infinite Monkey Cage and Frank Skinner’s Poetry Podcast are great examples of podcasts that take huge ideas and distil them into accessible entertainment. That’s exactly what we’re trying to do!

Who’s your dream guest for the podcast?

A broadcaster such as Emily Maitlis or Krishnan Guru-Murthy: I’d love to hear how they communicate with young people and if they have any advice for parents/guardians.

What are the biggest lessons you’ve learned so far as a podcaster?

Preparation, always. Or that less is more!

What episode would you say is the perfect introduction to your podcast?

I think ‘Democracy Rocks!’ It asks: is there more to democracy than just voting?

Where can Pod Bible readers find out more about you?

You can listen to the podcast now on Spotify!

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Tonya and Talia, co-hosts of the “hardcore” true crime podcast Crimes & Consequences

Who are you and what’s your podcast about?

I am an attorney and co-host of Crimes & Consequences true crime podcast. My co-host, Tonya, and I are partners at our own law firm and lovers of all things true crime. We consider Crimes & Consequences to be a “hardcore” true crime podcast, because we don’t hold back on the graphic details of the crimes. In fact, our goal in creating this podcast was to give our listeners as many specifics about the cases as possible. There is a dark side to humans that we find fascinating and we explore this through discussions of true crime homicide cases.

What was the first podcast you ever listened to?

It may come as a surprise to many, but I had never heard of a podcast until April of 2019, when my sister introduced me to Crime Junkie. Then I discovered Morbid and Casefiles and began listening to these podcasts on my drive to and from work.

Why did you decide to start podcasting in the first place?

Tonya and I would listen to different true crime stories and discuss them with each other during our lunch break. In the summer of 2019, we decided to learn about podcasting as a sort of hobby. The concept seemed simple enough: record a really interesting true crime story and share it with others. We began recording in our office during our spare time and it was so much fun, that we decided to take it up a notch and release the recordings publicly.

Which podcasts do you take inspiration from?

 I really am inspired by the podcast Casefiles. As a lawyer, I can appreciate the amount of research that goes into all of their stories and I aspire to include as many facts and details in each episode of Crimes & Consequences.

Who’s your dream guest for the podcast?

I would love to interview John Edward Douglas, a retired special agent and unit chief in the FBI. He is a criminal profiler and I’ve read all of his books.

What are the biggest lessons you’ve learned so far as podcasters?

I learned very quickly that there was a lot more to podcasting than just telling a story. If thousands of people are going to be listening to you, it’s really important that each and every case is thoroughly researched to ensure accuracy; if you make a mistake someone is going to point it out. There was a large learning curve with editing and recording, since we were starting from ground zero. In addition, I think it took us a few episodes to really figure out who we were and what we were about. What started out as two friends chit-chatting about true crime, developed into a show dealing with more serious issues such as wrongful convictions, questionable convictions, missing persons and unsolved murders. As the listeners sort through our playlist, they can hear the natural evolution into what we are today.

What episode would you say is the perfect introduction to your podcast?

One of the more recent podcasts that I really enjoyed is EP62: Don’t Go in the Basement. It is a story that has never been told before by any other media source and it’s a great murder mystery.

Where can Pod Bible readers find out more about you?

You can find out more about us on the website tntcrimes.com or follow the podcasts on Instagram @tntcrimespodcast, Facebook @tntcrimespodcast and Twitter @tntcrimespod.

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1. Diversity in Law – with Amanda Pinto QC, senior Barrister and Chair of The Bar Council
Coming from an ethnic minority background myself, and being a woman working in law, I can honestly say that I could really resonate with the discussion that I had with Amanda on how the legal profession is working towards making the Bar a more diverse sector to work in. There are not many people from my nationality at the Bar, and neither are their sufficient women at the top levels of the profession, so this episode really gives me hope that the Bar will be more diverse in future years. I guess that it was also refreshing to hear that a legal body is working so hard on making the Bar a diverse place to work.

2. Family Mediation – with senior Barrister & Judge Sarah Cooper
When I first started working in the legal sector, I truly believed that mediation was a waste of time. However, after having experienced with my clients how mediation can work in resolving matters, even in some of the most complex legal matters, I have become a strong believer of mediation. I love this episode because it gives our listeners a free insight into what mediation can be all about, in a way in which they may not be able to get access to elsewhere, without having to pay for it.

3. Domestic Abuse During The Crisis – Parts 1 and 2 – with senior Barrister Freya Rowe
As a direct result of the COVID-19 crisis, the increase in the number of domestic abuse cases have been staggering. This is such real and serious issue to so many people out there, and in these episodes we aim to help people recognise the various forms that domestic abuse that can take, and the number of ways in which you could get immediate help if you are experiencing any form of domestic abuse or if you are witnessing domestic abuse taking place.

4. Divorce Law – Part 1 – with senior Barrister Maria Scotland
Having been through a divorce myself many years ago, and even though I had legal assistance that was very costly, I did not understand most of what was going on in my divorce process at that time. When you look at the statistics that 1 in 3 marriages sadly end in divorce, I think it is so important for both parties to really understand the legal process around divorce, particularly if they are going to try and deal with the process themselves. Having some very basic understanding during the process, can really assist in preventing future problems and issues with what has been agreed, particularly relating to child arrangements, the finances of the marriage, the financial settlement, and with child and spousal maintenance that you may be paying or that you may be receiving. Understanding the process and getting it right whilst you are going through it, could even assist in keeping your assets and property safe and in your hands in years to come.

5. Motoring Law – Part 1 – with Barrister Jeremy Rosenberg
This is a really insightful episode that taught me a thing or to whilst recording it! We pass our driving test, and leave the law around motoring in the driver’s learning book behind, never catching up on the laws that govern most of us who use our cars on a regular basis. The 1 minute teaser video on our website for this podcast is also one of my favourite videos.

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Pod Bible: Can you tell us a bit about yourself?
Hatti Survari: I am a mother of 2 boys, 43 years young (just!), who really enjoys the subject of law. One of my biggest influencers in law was Judge Judy in America. After having watched her court room for over ten years, I had a consistent interest in the law. I established my law firm, Red Bar Law, in 2012, and then after seven years began Get Legally Speaking. I had previously worked in corporate banking and as an independent business consultant.

PB: What’s Get Legally Speaking about?
HS: Free legal conversation, in plain old English language. Through our conversations on GLS, we offer explanations and interpretations of the law, in layman’s terms, and in a way that we can relate the law to our everyday lives.

PB: What’s the first podcast you ever listened to?
HS: The first Podcast I listened to that I really enjoyed is called Table Manners with Jessie Ware. It was an interview with Jamie Oliver. Being a foodie, Jamie is a serious influence for me in my kitchen!

PB: Why did you decide to start podcasting in the first place?
HS: I started a podcast, because truthfully my then-twelve year old told me that it was the way forward for me in life! I am passionate about people being able to understand, and actually enjoy understanding, the various areas of law that affect us in our everyday lives. I agreed with my son that a podcast would be a great way to get conversations on law heard and listened to, so people could access the information perhaps when driving, commuting to work, working out, walking the dog, or even while cooking! 

PB: How did you decide on the format of your podcast?
HS: I am passionate about people being able to access the law, with the ease of understanding it, and therefore I wanted the podcast conversations to flow naturally and clearly.  I decided that one speaker would be a good way to record, so that there would not be too many voices potentially speaking over each other.  I tell my speakers that nothing will be edited, cut-out or re-recorded, so for them to relax and feel as comfortable as they can. I try to make my speakers relax during our recordings and engage with me in an ‘unstuffy’ way, as the law can seem quite stuffy at times!

PB: Do you work with a producer or create the show entirely on your own? What is that process like?
HS: I produce the show entirely on my own. The process consists of selecting the right expert barrister to guest as the speaker. This is a task in itself, as not every barrister will record well and come across in a ‘user-friendly’ manner, as I like to say, regardless of the extent of their legal knowledge. Once the speaker is selected, I have to prepare the questions for the recordings, which consists of carrying out our market research on the most frequently asked questions, taking those and adding them to the most frequently asked questions that I have had over the past years of running my law firm, and adding all of those to questions that are emailed in to us from our listeners. This produces our list of questions for each podcast. Once we get to that stage, a date is scheduled to record, and I record. Following that, I prepare and upload the recording, together with the description of what we have recorded. I inform all parties involved that the podcast is going to be published, when it is ready in-line with our schedule. Our online social media marketing for the podcasts are carried out by a small team, who each add a great amount of value to the process. I have to say that, as much as it is a lot of hard work and many hours of time, I thoroughly enjoy it and love the positive feedback that we are getting.

PB: How did you decide to tackle the current health crisis on your podcast? How has the coronavirus impacted how you approach and create your show?
HS: I had to quickly find a way to record our podcasts remotely with my speakers, and by the 23rd of March (which was the first day of the lockdown), I was set up to record on Zoom, when on the 1st of March, I did not know what Zoom was!  To try and assist people during the crisis, we have actually recorded a number of COVID-19 related podcasts, for example dealing with domestic abuse during the crisis, and employment law and your rights during the crisis.

PB: Who’s your dream guest for the podcast?
HS: At the moment, my dream Podcast guest is probably Martin Lewis. I really admire Martin for the wealth of information he offers, in a really enthusiastic, informed and in a user-friendly way, in which his audience can engage and understand his useful points.  I also believe that finances and law can go hand in hand, both being essential areas of our lives, that we should know the basics around.

PB: What’s the biggest lesson you’ve learnt so far as a podcaster?
HS: To have your microphone set up in the right direction! It only took me 5 months to get that one right! Thankfully, having a half decent microphone meant that the sound didn’t sound so bad having it back to front! 

PB: Which episode would you say is the perfect introduction to your podcast?
HS: I would say that our Trailer gives people a real flavour on what GLS is all about. It is user friendly and tries to keep the stuffiness out of a subject that can otherwise seem quite heavy. It allows potential listeners to try and understand what we are offering.

PB: Where can the Pod Bible readers find out more about you?
HS: On our website and on my Linkedin page!

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